Oveready Lava P60 with XP-L HI 371d and Optic DIP 219c Drop in Flashlight Review

Preface
Official Specs
Versions
Price
Short Review
Long Review
  What's Included
  Manual and Packaging
  Build Quality and Durability
  Size
  Retention
  Power
  User Interface and Operation
  Modes
  LED and beam
  Tint vs...
  Beamshots, Runtime, etc table.
  Comparisons
Conclusion
  What I like
  What I don't like
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Notes

Preface

Here’s one of those random reviews of a light (and items) that I purchase myself, and am  completely free to say what I want.  (That’s a joke; I say what I want about all items I review, no matter how I get them.)  This is a light I’ve eyeballed for ages, but never ponied up the money for.  I had a failed purchase through another site, so I decided to use that money for this light.  It’s the Oveready Lava P60 host.  I paired it with two drop ins; a 371d p60 triple drop in, and an Oveready DIP 8-mode 219c drop in.  I’m excited to have this light, and glad to put forth this review!

The main thrust of this review will be the Lava host.  I’ve essentially reviewed the TorchLAB v5 driver etc elsewhere (see: TorchLAB BOSS review).  I’ll also handle the DIP drop in too, since I haven’t reviewed it, nor have I seen a review of it.


Official Specs and Features

Lava 18350 P60 Host

Oveready Optic DIP 8 Mode Group P60 Dropin – 219C 4000k

TorchLAB v5 Triple – Thirty Three Level P60 Drop In (3500L)

Those links are for exactly the configuration I purchased.  As this is a P60 light, any standard P60 drop in will work.

Versions

As I said, this is a P60 light; any standard P60 drop in will work.  As for the host, Oveready makes a whole host of different options (did you get that, it’s a flashlight joke).  There are a bunch of acrylic (the Lava is acrylic), and a couple of metal options.  The acrylic hosts are also available in a 16340 size.  My host is the 18350 size, and that’s what I’d fully recommend.

Price

The Lava host is $75 (and up, depending on your color preference).

The DIP drop in starts at $86, and that includes one optic (which this drop in requires).

The TorchLABv5 Triple is $226.


Short Review

It’s fairly well documented that I love TorchLAB v5 lights.  I have more TorchLAB BOSS lights than I should even admit to, and I love the driver and programmability.  I have only dabbled in P60 lights before, but I love the host, too.  The DIP drop in is very neat, and it’ll find a home in a light, but I’ll use the v5 in the Lava, and use the Lava often.

I love this setup!

Long Review

What’s Included

The Lava host only includes the host.

A separate purchase was the TorchLAB v5, which also includes nothing extra.

And a separate purchase still is the DIP drop in, which includes an optic.  I purchased an additional optic; both optic shipped in the black tray seen below.

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Package and Manual

As with most other Oveready shipments, the light (or host, in this case) ships inside a bit of pipe insulation.

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The light is in a bag, so it’s protected (the bag has been removed for the photo below.)

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The optics for the DIP ship in cut out optic trays, are are well protected.

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In my case, the TorchLAB v5 shipped inside the Lava host.  I am not sure how it’d ship if not ordered with a host.  Probably the same way that the DIP drop in shipped to me, which is a screw top hard plastic vial.

There is no manual for any of these parts.  Using all of the parts relies on access to the website, where each is fairly well explained.

Build Quality and Disassembly

The build quality of the acrylic host is outstanding.  Yes, it’s acrylic.  Also yes, the v5 drop in is capable of producing a lot of heat.  I’ll cover more on that later, but suffice to say that the acrylic host is capable of dealing with any heat the driver can put out.  (In other words, stop worrying about that, and read on.)

Something else I should say at the front:  The orange has a lot of red in it.  It’s definitely “orangey red” but it’s still a red base, not an orange base.  So if you want a truly orange light (like I did), maybe message Oveready and be sure they pick the orangest one they can find in their stock.

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The nature of these hosts is that they’re all unique.  It’s three (or four?  or many?) colors of acrylic swirled together to make this pattern.  As I understand it, this basically comes as ‘bar stock’, and from that hosts are spun.  What that means is that even though these three parts are separate, they do match – the swirls match from head to body to tail.

There are metal parts, however.  The head and tail are acrylic, but the body is aluminum with an acrylic “wrapper.”

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Inside are actually two pieces of aluminum.  One houses the drop in and the other is the cell tube.  You will see it better later, but note that black o-ring?  That keeps the cell from falling through the tube.  It’s a nice touch.

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The head is actually fully acrylic.  That means that the mating threads on the head are acrylic, and they screw on to aluminum threads  This is by no means a problem.  In fact this probably accounts for how smooth the threads feel.  The threads are also very lubed.

The head part of the host also has a lens, and a bezel ring, which may be unscrewed.  I’ve included a smooth delrin black bezel ring in my purchase (which adds $5).  Default is white, I believe.

The tailcap has metal parts of course, because there’s a clicky in there.

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Something I consider a very nice touch is the branded brass ring on the clicky.  You’ll see the three circles familiar from the BOSS lights, and also “USA.”

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Here’s the TorchLAB v5 (LuxRC 371d) Drop in:

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It’s a very contained unit.  The optic seems to be sealed into the drop body (but the host has a lens anyway).  As such, it’s not possible to change the optic on this drop in.

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The spring is a single wound spring.

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The widest edge of the drop in has a label describing the unit.  Mine says “NXS TRIPLE XPL HI 2.5-8.8V TORCHLAB”.  Note the voltage range there.  All the way up to 8.8V.  But, the Lava host doesn’t come in an 18650 size, so it’s not possible to run this light with 2x 18350, to actually hit that voltage range.  And while the light is fine with the heat from just about anything a single 18350 can throw at it, doubling up could be pushing it (in the Lava acrylic host, not for the engine!)

In the host, the drop in rests on the top of the body – ie it “sticks out.”  That’s because normally you’d have a reflector or optic, and so that space needs to be made up.  In this case, the optic is built in.

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Oveready Optic DIP 8 Mode Group P60 Drop in:

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This drop in is a bit simpler.  (Well, in some manner of speaking.)  There is no optic (you receive one with your order, but it’s not physically attached.)  The spring is the same as on the v5 drop in.  The body is aluminum.

Of course the most interesting thing about this drop in is the switches.  There are three switches with 2 positions.  That means there are 2^n permutations, so 8 possibilities.  Best is just to copy those from OR:

1 1 1 – high only
0 1 1 – low only
1 0 1 – high low
1 1 0 – low high
0 0 1 – high med low
1 0 0 – low med high
0 1 0 – high med low dim
0 0 0 – dim low med high

Where:

H 100%
M 30%
L 5%
D 1/4%

And where the switches are referenced in order.  Ie Switch 1 first, Switch 2 second, Switch 3 third.  The switches are silk screen labeled.  The light ships in the 1 1 1 configuration.  The switches are easy to change.  I used a toothpick.  They’re flush with the bezel, so it’s hard (if not impossible) to use a fingernail or something like that.

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The side of the drop in is labeled with “P60 26.5 | 3V – 4.2V | U S A”.

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When this drop in is placed in a host, it sits practically flush.  That’s why you need an optic.  Otherwise, the drop in will bounce around and not make contact.

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The emitter in my DIP is a Nichia 219c.

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Size

I measure the host this way:  28mm diameter in the body.  34mm in the head. 95mm in length (excluding the boot/switch), with the boot adding around 5mm.

This is essentially the standard size P60 host, but thicker.  For reference the Solarforce L2M is 102 x 32 x 25.4mm.

Update, per Dan from Oveready:  All of these sized hosts accept 18350.  A sleeve can be added to allow use of 16340 sized cells.  Also it’s possible to get the host (without regard to whether you have the sleeve for the smaller cell or not) as a “thicker” or “thinner” host.  But they all accept 18350, and they can all have a 16340 sleeve added!  (This is clear from the product page if you already know it.  It’s a little confusing if you don’t already know it.)

Retention

Included with the host there is no proper way to retain the light.  No clip, no magnet, no pouch.  It’s possible to add a metal pocket clip, but that was out of stock when I purchased, and I haven’t followed up.  I do know from the experience of others, that the clip is fantastic.  The clip is the “Universal – TiALN Spring Stainless Steel Clip.”

Power

Recall that there are two body types for the Lava hosts.  There’s a 16340 sleeve option, and the default 18350 option (which all these hosts accept).  What I have (and recommend) is the 18350 option (ie, no need for the sleeve).  There’s a spring on the tail (and head, if your drop in is configured as such, and most (all?) are), so any type 18350 should work fine.  My testing was all done with a flat top unprotected Efest 800mAh 18350.

Note the o-ring in the body just above the cell.  That o-ring keeps the cell from falling out the front end of the host.  It’s a small thing, but a very nice touch.

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Here are a few runtimes.  The first is with the DIP, which is direct drive.  Running the light on high with the 219c emitter isn’t recommended, but I did so (for science).  I measured about 500 lumens at 30 seconds, and the output mostly tracks the cell voltage all the way down.  I wasn’t able to properly test the drop in with my bench power to confirm LVP cutoff, though.

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I tested the Lava host with the v5 drop in at the default temperature, and the highest possible output setting (“31”).  I kept LVP enabled.  Below is the default temperature setting for the LuxRC driver.

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I also obtained a couple of higher-than-default temperature settings, just out of curiosity.  Dan from Oveready provided a 75°C program.  As you can see the overall temperature is higher, but the output is essentially the same.  The host handled this temperature without any issue.

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I also obtained an 85°C program.  The light shut off after only a few minutes, and when restarted again followed essentially the same stepdowns as with the other temperatures.

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In summary, don’t worry about the temperature of the drop in with the acrylic host.  It’ll handle any of the default temperatures just fine.  (And the higher options aren’t even available generally, so that’s not a concern either).

Of course, the runtimes on the highest mode and either drop in with an 800mAh 18350 is quite short.

User Interface and Operation

It should be noted that there are different switch types available for the Lava host.  What I have is the McClicky – Orange softpress, and there are a bunch of other clicky options.  There’s also a SF Twisty – Black option.

I won’t cover the UI of the v5 drop in.  I’ve covered it before and it hasn’t changed.  If you’re interested, see my TorchLAB BOSS review.  (That’s a light I still own and love.)

The McClicky is a forward clicky, and the highest regarded flashlight switch on the market.

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Modes and UI and just generally everything depend on the driver.  And that driver is per your choice, so there’s not a lot to run through with that in mind.  Suffice to say that the McClicky works as it should.

LED and Beam

For the v5 drop in, I opted to get the XP-L HI 4000K, with an Amber secondary.  This is my favorite v5 tint and output (I have the 219c option in my BOSSes, and also have the (not available in this drop in) XP-L HI Redomes).  The XP-L HI 4000K is the best.

The optic is clear, and I think a Carclo 10507.  The beam profile is great and supports the idea that it’s a 10507 “narrow spot” optic.  Not a lot of spill with this optic.

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The emitter in my DIP is a Nichia 219c, 4000K.  I chose two optics: Frosted Narrow, and Frosted Wide.  Mine arrived with the sprue still attached.  Dan normally cleans those up, but mine must have slipped through.  If yours has that, just clip it off with some wire clippers or whatever.

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371d Beamshots:

DIP Beamshots

Tint vs BLF-348

371d XP-L HI 4000K:

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Beamshots, Runtime, and Lux Measurements

Oveready P60 219c Dropin (Solarforce Host) (Floody optic)
Emitter Nichia 219c
Emitter Notes 4000K
Cell 18350
Runtime Chargetime N/A
LVP? Claimed
Claimed Lumens (lm)
Lux (Measured) 48 lux @ 5.504 m
Candela (Calculated) in cd 1454.1
Throw (Calculated) (m) 76.3
Throw (Claimed) (m)
Oveready Lava 18350 P60 (371D)
Emitter XP-L HI
Emitter Notes 4000K
Cell 18350
Runtime Chargetime N/A
LVP? If programmed
Claimed Lumens (lm) 1933 (on mode 28)
Lux (Measured) 281 lux @ 4.799 m
Candela (Calculated) in cd 6471.5
Throw (Calculated) (m) 160.9
Throw (Claimed) (m)

Random Comparisons and Competitive Options….

This is a special P60, of course, but there are a whole host of options for P60 lights.  There are even non-metal options like some of the older Surefires.  The closest thing I can think of, and which I also own, is some of the SolarForce hosts.  All of the L2 series, for example.  I have and like the carbon fiber model.

But there’s just nothing that compares to the acrylic swirl of the Lava host.  Or any of the swirl hosts, for that matter.  These are just special!

Conclusion

What I like

  • Swirl is wonderful
  • Uniqueness of each swirl
  • Available options for switches, bezels, etc
  • Ability to put in a drop in of your choice (which is more of a commentary on P60’s in general than strictly this host)

What I don’t like

  • I wish this orange was more orange.
  • I’d love a low profile (ie tail-standable) clicky switch option (the twisty should tailstand, I think).
  • This is expensive for a P60 host.

Parting Shot

Yep, these parts are interchangeable!

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Up Next

I’ve been receiving a bunch of lights lately, so I hope to get a lot of work done on that.

Notes

  • This light was provided by Me! for review. I was not paid to write this review.
  • This content originally appeared at zeroair.wordpress.com.  Please visit there for the best experience!
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